Saturday 21 November 2009 – To mark Universal Children’s Day and International Day for the Elimination of Violence against Women
View report, video footage and photographs of the Rally here
SHOW YOUR OPPOSITION TO SHARIA LAW AND ALL RELIGIOUS-BASED TRIBUNALS IN BRITAIN, IRAN, IRAQ, AFGHANISTAN, PAKISTAN, SOMALIA AND ELSEWHERE
DEMAND AN END TO CULTURAL RELATIVISM AND RACISM
DEMAND ONE SECULAR LAW AND UNIVERSAL RIGHTS
DEFEND THE RIGHT TO ASYLUM FOR THOSE WHO HAVE FLED SHARIA
Saturday 21 November 2009 afternoon
Central London Rally – North Carriage Drive in London’s Hyde Park
Please take into consideration underground closures on the day
Confirmed speakers: Council of Ex-Muslims of Britain’s Asad Abbas; Poet ‘AK47;’ Musician Fari B; International Humanist and Ethical Union’s Roy Brown; Singer/Songwriter David Fisher; Philosopher AC Grayling; Southall Black Sisters’ Rahila Gupta; Journalist Johann Hari; MP Evan Harris; Poet ‘Lilith;’ Organisation of Women’s Freedom in Iraq’s Houzan Mahmoud, Lawyer Cris Mccurley; Lawyer Rony Miah; Campaigner Maryam Namazie; Writer Taslima Nasrin; British Humanist Association’s Naomi Phillips; European Humanist Federation’s David Pollock; Iranian Secular Society’s Fariborz Pooya; National Secular Society’s Terry Sanderson; Poet Selina aka ‘Jus1Jam;’ Activist Muriel Seltman; Equal Rights Now’s Sohaila Sharifi; Organisation for the Defence of Secularism and Civil Rights in Iraq’s Issam Shukri; Iran Solidarity’s Bahram Soroush; Human Rights Campaigner Peter Tatchell and National Secular Society’s Keith Porteous Wood.
Simultaneous acts of solidarity and support for the rally and its aims will take place in countries across the world including Australia, Austria, Belgium, Canada, Denmark, Hungary, Iraq, Ireland, Israel, Kenya, France, Germany, Mexico, the Netherlands, Nigeria, Norway, Poland, Serbia and Montenegro, Sweden, Switzerland and USA. (To organise an act – however small – contact us; right now acts taking place are groups or individuals handing out leaflets, organising a petition, holding rallies, issuing a statement on Sharia and so on.)
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63 Comments
philip garratt-slater
when you have decided a place please contact me on pls_dont_u_emojew@hotmail.co.uk
Michael (aka B-Boy)
I wish I could be there but I’ll be back in Jamaica with ma bruv dat day, he’s also a member of da AIM so he’s disappointed too innit. But we fully support what you’re doin with this and we really wanted to be there with da AIM to represent. I know our protest poets will do justice to da event. If you need any help wit anythin hit me up though.
Respect to Maryam Namzie, da One Law For All peeps, Britain’s Council of Ex-Muslims and all da other folks worldwide who are down with equality, secularism and justice. Big up to H. I been reppin him for days so I’m real glad he got out of da IRC. Yout have ma continual support!
John T
Will see you there on 21st Nov!
IrreligiousTheist
Unfortunately, I live in a country as a foreigner, and this country has a very intolerant “secular” government. Why intolerant, because it is a small country and effectively controls its population. Anything that may disrupt “racial harmony” will be taken down by force, and therefore there is no real freedom of speech. Anyway it’s a very quiet country that has many races in it, all of whom live “harmoniously” together in a societal level, but you can’t expect that anywhere in a family level. The neighbouring country is an Islamic country, and a rather large group of Muslim adherents there is in the silent plans to attack us and other non-Islamic countries. Yet this country that I stay in, is not aware of the danger at all. What to do? There is no “Sharia-detecting radar” anywhere in our highly technologically-advanced defense systems.
Udit Ranjan Soren
Hello, I am from India. I also don’t support the Sharia Law. It’s very inhumane. I live in the Orissa State of India. The capital of which is Bhubaneswar. Do you know any person who lives near my house and supports this cause ? Please inform I want. I am still unemployed, If I had been earning I would have definitely donated for this cause.
Stephen Gash
How is it that Muslims voted for Recep Tayyip Erdogan in Turkey and the Malaysian Government, both of whom are Islamising their countries and bringing in sharia law? The people must want it if they voted these governments to power.
Similarly in Egypt where the Islamic government is perpetrating genocide against the Copts. How can Muslim voters be labelled “victims”, if they are the ones electing governments to power that strengthen sharia law?
Before the 7/7 bombings 60% of Muslims polled in Britain wanted sharia law. That figure dropped to 40% after 7/7, but even this is a significant amount. Many of us believe the first figure to be nearer the mark.
Let’s hope your rally is not cancelled like SIOE’s looks like it is to be. Have you thought about inviting Geert Wilders to speak?
Maryam Namazie
Thank you for your comments and questions. I have received a large number of emails too and will try and respond briefly to one every day until our rally on November 21.
Let me begin by responding to the one from the Stop Islamisation Of Europe (SIOE).
Of course there is much to say about them and their racist politics – and don’t worry – I will.
For now, however, suffice it to say that I find it comic how they – and the likes of the English Defence League or the British National Party – don’t see their affinity with the Islamists and the political Islamic movement.
Stephen Gash’ statement is a great case in point.
The Islamists blame Westerners for Western government policies – no matter how many of them come out and say ‘not in our name.’ For the Islamists, all Israelis are fair game; so is every single man, woman and child in America and so on and so forth. That’s why they target buses and discothèques. They too say that the people in the West elected those governments and therefore must be held accountable. In the world according to them, the people in America elected Bush so they deserved September 11; the people in Britain elected Blair so 7/7 was fair game.
And in the world according to the likes of Stephen Gash, the millions languishing under and resisting Sharia law deserve what they get no matter how many are killed, tortured, burnt, stoned and hung from city squares…
As an aside, that is also why Geert Wilders will never be invited to speak at our rallies; he represents that very way of thinking that scapegoats and blames millions for a regressive right wing political Islamic movement that was actually brought to centre stage by Western government policy during the Cold War. For an analysis on his film, Fitna, see here: http://maryamnamazie.blogspot.com/2008/05/on-fitna-movie.html. You can also see Fitna Remade by Reza Moradi here: http://www.fitna-remade.com/Pages/fitna-remade.html
BTW if you want to read on, here is a good interview I did with Bahram Soroush and Fariborz Pooya on racist parties and racism: http://maryamnamazie.com/tv/on_racist_parties_and_racism.html
Until tomorrow then
Maryam
Maryam Namazie
Margaret writes: I wanted to sign your online petition against Sharia Law in Britain, but the wording has put me off. It says “all religious laws are arbitrary and discriminatory against women and children in particular.” In the case of my own religion this is not so. It may very well be true of some, or indeed many, religions but I cannot agree that it is true for all and do not feel that I can sign my name to something which says that, even though I would dearly love to sign a petition against Sharia Law in this country. I would be betraying my own beliefs if I signed something with such a sweeping blanket statement which I know to be untrue. Is there any way in which you could amend this statement?
Maryam responds:
From our perspective, Islam is no different from other religions. You can find just as much misogyny, cruelty and inhumanity in the Bible, Torah or other religious books as you can in the Koran. And in my opinion Islam, Christianity and Judaism are fundamentally no different from Scientology or Moon’s Unification Church, which are considered cults endangering social and personal development.
Of course, today – as we speak – there is a distinction to be made between religion in general and Islam in particular but for no other reason than that it is the ideology behind a movement that is, in many places, part and parcel of the state, the law, criminal so-called ‘justice’ system, judiciary, and educational system.
It is the difference between Christianity during the inquisition to one we see for example in Europe today. A ‘moderate,’ ‘reformed’ or ‘cuddlier’ religion is one that has been pushed back and reigned in by an enlightenment. And not before.
To read more about what I think about this, click on a speech I made on the subject here.
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The petition, which has already been signed by over 18000 people can’t be amended – the whole point of it is to focus on Sharia law but aim to get rid of all religious law in this country – just as the successful campaign against Sharia did in Ontario Province in Canada.
I am now off for a meeting and will be in Trafalgar Square at 1730 for an act of solidarity with the people of Iran with other volunteers. We are going to focus on child executions today.
Until tomorrow then,
Keep well.
Maryam
bahar milani
I think it is crucial to add this demand:
“STOP CHILD EXECUTION IN IRAN”, Just Yesterday Behnoud Shojaee was executed.
” Behnoud Shojaee was executed; We need to raise our voice even louder
Despite enormous objections around the world, “Behnoud Shojaee was executed early this morning in Tehran’s Evin prison.
He was convicted of murdering another boy by the name Omid 4 years ago. At that time he was 17 years old.
His execution had been halted five times earlier, due to international pressure and attempts by his lawyer and other human rights defenders.
Last night, hundreds of people had gathered outside the Evin prison, in hope of being able to make authorities to postpone the execution once again.
However, after more than four years prison, Behnood Shojaee was hanged early this morning.” Human Rights report.
….
Abbas Goya”
Maryam Namazie
Danny writes in an email: I have been an avid supporter of your cause – not allowing Sharia law to affect our own. But in your previous e-mail, I felt you were encouraging your members to support secularism, I could not do this, given that I am a Christian… I am a definite supporter of your cause, but now I’m not sure what to think, or what you truly oppose! Hope you can clear a few things up for me, Thank you for your time and kindest regards.
Maryam Namazie replies: Thanks for your email. I don’t see why you cannot be a Christian and a secularist at the same time. There are many, including Christians and Muslims, who are both. Secularism is the separation of religion from the state. It has nothing to do with your private beliefs. In fact, often times, a secular state is the best guarantee that your freedom of religion or atheism won’t be violated. For example, if you live in an Islamic state, what happens if you are a Muslim who wants to drink and have sex outside of marriage, and or is gay? What about all the other religious groups or atheists living there? Even if you are of the same religion as the state, there is no guarantee that your version of your religion will be the one the state adheres to. So even in a place like Britain, which is still far from a secular society, the state allows religious groups exemptions to discriminate against those they don’t accept. A good case in point is a homeless gay man being refused entry into a church-run shelter. Of course Britain today is a very different place from the times of the inquisition but in my opinion the extent to which religion is part of the state, educational system, or judicial system – whatever religion – that is the extent to which people in general suffer.
The promotion of secularism is an important vehicle to protect society from religion’s intervention in people’s lives, especially in the face of religion’s rising access to power.
I know nowadays, secularism is often portrayed negatively and that comes out in your letter. But this is just not true. Religion excludes whilst secularism is inclusive and ensures that a sect or group does not impose its beliefs on all. That a person’s religion is a private affair.
This has also been clearly stated in our manifesto, which says: ‘Rights, justice, inclusion, equality and respect are for people, not beliefs. In a civil society, people must have full citizenship rights and equality under the law. Clearly, Sharia law contravenes fundamental human rights. In order to safeguard the rights and freedoms of all those living in Britain, there must be one secular law for all and no Sharia.’
You can read more about my position on secularism in this article called Faith and State, getting the balance right: http://maryamnamazie.blogspot.com/2007/02/faith-and-state-getting-balance-right.html.
Hope this helps clarify things.
Until tomorrow then.
Anwar Rizvi
I am a muslim and and i remain fundamentally opposed to shari’a law anywhere in the world. My big worry is that your campaign is being hijacked by the extreme right in this country who are planning not only to attend your demonstration but use it as an “add on” to their violent anti-muslim campaign that is already under way in many parts of britain. I have already seem several messages on facebook where extreme right wingers are urging people to attend your event. I myself wont be there because of work commitments but i just urge you to be on the guard against these racists.
Maryam Namazie
Thanks for your comment Anwar. First off, if racists and fascists come they will be kicked out. Full stop. The few who tried to join our last March 7 rally were made to leave by organisers and they will be told to do so again. You can see video footage of our March 7 2009 rally and seminar here to see how well it all went off: https://onelawforall.org.uk/one-law-for-all-campaign-against-sharia-law-in-britains-international-womens-day/
You are right in saying that the extreme right has hijacked this issue but NOT our campaign and there is a big difference between the two. The BNP, English Defence League, Stop Islamisation of Europe and all the other big and small racist and fascist groups are using Sharia in order to promote their racist, anti-immigrant and inhumane agenda. But that is doubly why we must take centre stage. We have to come to the fore because Sharia is unjust and because we need to make sure that in the ensuing battle human rights, dignity, and humanity are upheld. All demands for change involve social movements pushing for them. That is why the world today is better in many ways than that of the Middle Ages the Islamists are trying to drag us back into. But if we stay silent because of the far-right, we shirk our responsibilities and duties. And we leave the stage open for them and the Islamists. I am sorry but I just won’t allow that.
Let me put it this way, just because the pope is opposed to the death penalty, doesn’t mean I will stop opposing it because he is regressive. Just because Iran is against the US, doesn’t mean I will start supporting the brutal US militarism. We have to start by doing what is right and we have to make sure that we show the world that we are the majority. A society in which the far-right has the upper hand is not that different than the one in which the Islamists do. So I would hope you would take off from work on November 21, that you’d encourage people to come and that in any forum where you see the far-right encouraging people to come, you would send us the links so we can go there and tell them not to bother.
This rally is just as much against them as it is against the Islamists. It is just as much about a better society for us here in Britain as in the rest of the world.
Maryam Namazie
Hi Sorry I didn’t get a chance to post my comment here for October 15, 2009. Here it is:
Lorraine writes: I saw something in the Daily Express (http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/134080/Now-Muslims-demand-Give-us-full-Sharia-law) today about a planned demonstration by an organization called Islam4UK for 31st October, in London. It is in support of the demand that full sharia law be introduced throughout Britain, whether for non-Muslims as well as Muslims isn’t clear. I wondered if you had any views/further info’, and whether a counter-demonstration by One Law for All might be planned?’
Maryam Namazie responds: Thanks for your email. No we won’t be holding a counter demonstration. I don’t think that is very useful when it comes to dealing with fascists such as Anjem Choudary and the Islamists organising this rally. They have to receive a political response, which is what the One Law for All campaign and others are trying to do. The Daily Express article says they hope to bring 5,000 ‘Muslims’ to Trafalgar Square. As I have said before, it is not ‘Muslims’ who will be coming out but the Islamists. Despite Britain being a stronghold for that movement I doubt they could get so many even if they manage to mobilise the embassy staff of the Islamic Republic of Iran, Saudi Arabia and so on.
Our response is not to counter demonstrate on the 31 – but to carry on doing what we are doing – building a movement, mobilising people (we already have over 18000 signatories to our petition), raising awareness on why Sharia law is a tool of political Islam and not the desire of ‘Muslims,’ organising rallies such as the November 21 one, and planning an upcoming seminar in March 2010 with lawyers, campaigners and politicians to draw up our recommendations for how we can get rid of Sharia law, as well as efforts at the European level by the National Secular Society and so on and so forth.
I do hope you will be coming to the rally and telling everyone you know about it – we need to show that the Islamists are a minority – we know they are – but we have to show it.
Just as an aside about a statement in the Daily Express article by Tory MP Philip Davies who said: “The simple solution is for these people to move to a country which already has sharia law.” I am sorry, but in countries that have Sharia – people there are busy trying to get rid of the Islamists in power – like in Iran. Please don’t export yours there too – deal with them here. Stop appeasing the political Islamic movement; stop political relations with Islamic states, stop funding Islamic organisations and stop fragmenting society into a million pieces and start treating everyone living here as equal citizens…
Maryam Namazie
Sana from Pakistan writes: ‘How lucky u guyz are at least you can protest and voice your opposition against the injustice [of Sharia law]. Pity on us.’
Maryam Namazie responds: Thanks so much for your email Sana. Our protest is just as much against Sharia in Pakistan as it is in Britain, Afghanistan, Somalia or elsewhere. The political Islamic movement is a global one; and opposition to it is global too. When we take to the streets in Britain, Iran, Afghanistan or elsewhere we do it for all of us – and not out of despair – but out of the hope and possibility for a better and different world.
In Pakistan, there are many who are protesting too. Below are some good contacts for you to have just off the top of my head – they will direct you to others who are organising. You can always begin by contacting them via email and the internet. They include: Women against Fundamentalism, A high court judge who is campaigning to get rid of state religion, Civil Society organisations that call for repeal of blasphemy laws, Shirkat Gah and Chay magazine on Sex, sexuality and Pakistan. I will send you links to them via email.
Hope the above is useful. Please keep in touch and keep strong.
Maryam
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Here is another response to Sharia law related questions, comments and emails:
‘I’m Betty- Ibtissame LACHGAR, rights activist in Morocco. You have maybe heard about our Movement for Defence of Individual Liberties (MALI) and the buzz in Ramadan? I really want to meet u.’
Maryam Namazie responds: Hi Betty, it would be wonderful to meet you. I’ll be sure to highlight the brilliant work you are doing there. It would be great if you could send a message to the November 21 rally protestors that we could read out on the day. I look forward to working closely with you and supporting you in any way possible. Best wishes, Maryam
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In case you haven’t yet heard, Betty-Ibtissame and Zineb El Rhazoui are the co-founders of MALI. They have just been barred from leaving Morocco to attend a conference in Paris and were told by border police that they are on a ‘wanted’ list. Their crime? Organising a public daytime fast break at the city of Mohammedia during Ramadan (Sunday, September 13). Breaking the rules of fasting is forbidden for Muslims in Morocco and can be punishable by a sentence of one to six months in prison and fines of almost 100 euros, according to Article 222 of the Moroccan Penal Code. To protest against ‘this interference in private life,’ MALI organised a fast-breaking protest. According to Zineb: ‘Our aim was to show that we are Moroccans, but that we do not fast, and that we have a right to exist.’ They were besieged by the police. The Official Moroccan Council of Ulema (theologians) denounced the protesters and described them as ‘agitators.’ Some of the group members were arrested and subjected to death threats via e-mails.
until tomorrow then,
Maryam
Maryam Namazie
Nader from Iran writes: ‘With all respect, the pressure and fear from Sharia is both on men and women. Every man also has to accept and submit as every woman does. Islam is the only religion today that teaches fear as the first lesson. Rule number 1 is fear for all. As such it is even more dangerous than any disease or drug. Every word I write is stating a fact and in no way discriminating against anyone. I say discriminating is most when you know and do not say anything because of fear.’
Maryam Namazie responds: Thank you for your email. Yes Nader of course you are right. Sharia law affects men, women and children. Today for example 5 people (4 men and 1 woman) were executed by the Islamic Republic of Iran. Many of the minors on death row in Iran are boys. Men are also stoned to death for sex outside of marriage, are harassed for improper dress – for example if they are wearing a T-shirt, tie or have long hair and so on.
But you must accept that women are very often the first line of attack under Sharia and all religious laws. And the attack on them is usually most visible – for example the fact that they must be veiled in public, they must be segregated, they must enter via different entrances into public buildings and so on. Or here in Britain, women are a majority of those attending Sharia courts and councils because men have the unilateral right to divorce under Sharia and they don’t.
But having said that, just because we are highlighting the problems with Sharia by focusing on women or children doesn’t mean we are denying that Sharia is not a problem for men. In fact our demands are gender neutral – we are calling for an end to Sharia and all religious courts and councils (and not just for women). We are using the opportunity of Universal Children’s Day and the International Day against the Elimination of Violence against Women to do so. In the past, we have marked the International Day against the Death Penalty to highlight Sharia and apostasy and will continue to mark internationally known days to bring attention to this issue. I hope this better explains our position.
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Just as an aside, given your comment on Islam, let me also add that I think all religions teach fear. Islam seems the most dangerous today because of the political Islamic movement. To read more about this, click on a speech I made on the subject here.
DJM writes: Would have liked to have attended [the November 21 rally] – but am highly aware of the problem that violence against MEN is deemed somehow acceptable – and cannot therefore attend the march. It is a well known fact that violence against men (even in the home environment) is at least as large a problem as domestic violence against women – and yet no organisation speaks out against the feminist propaganda that says that only men are violent. There are no shelters for battered men – indeed – no recourse against female violence against men at all – including the police who do not take these issues seriously. I totally support the elimination of violence – for everybody – but will not attend in support of a female only (the organisation of which is highly anti-male) anti male hate group.
Maryam Namazie responds: I think I have addressed your comments in general in the above response to Nader. But I must say one thing: I think it absurd logic that you find a defence of women’s or children’s rights to be ‘anti-male’ and our organisation an ‘anti-male hate group!’ If I am to be completely frank, I think the problem is not so much that we are – as you say – ‘highly anti-male’ but that you are highly anti-woman.
Antony
Dear Maryam ;
Well done for organising an anti sharia demo, I aim to make it and hope as many people from different walks of life can get there.
Apart from the important issue of sharia law, if you’re organisation believes in one law for all, why not also campaign to ban the burqah ? – aside from being an instrument of women’s repression and the fact it covers up womanly beauty, if you or I went around the streets wearing a ski mask and nazi uniform or a ku klux klan robe and pointy hat we would very quickly be arrested, why should islamists be above the law ?
Additionally , why not also campaign to ban male circumcision ? it is illegal for the rest of us to have plastic surgery, body piercings or tattoos until we are over 18 – why should fundamentalists force this silly and barbaric practise on children ? Given that you are also campaigning for children’s rights this is an important issue.
Female circumcision/genital mutilation is correctly illegal in the UK, but one hears reports of the law being ignored or sidestepped by parents taking their kids to Somalia etc to have it done, surely this should be looked into ?
yours blasphemeously
Antony
Maryam Namazie
Diane writes: Whilst I agree with stopping any form of Sharia Law here, as far as I can see it’s the United Against Fascism group who are in bed with Islamists, not the far right. They defend radical Islam.
Maryam Namazie responds: Yes of course Diane, the Left such as the Socialist Workers’ Party and George Galloway defend Islamism – and of course some more than others. Even so, the far-right – my enemy’s enemy – doesn’t make a friend.
But that doesn’t mean that I think the sad excuse of much of the European Left is any better (even though I myself am on the Left).
It is an anti-colonial movement whose perspectives coincide with that of the ruling classes in the so-called Third World. This grouping is on the side of the ‘colonies’ no matter what goes on there. And their understanding of the ‘colonies’ is Eurocentric, patronising and even racist. In the world according to them, the people in these countries are one and the same with the regimes they are struggling against just as the ‘Muslim community’ here is one and the same with reactionary Islamic organisations, Sharia councils, and parasitical imams. Which is why at Stop the War Coalition demonstrations, they carry banners saying ‘We are all Hezbollah;’ at meetings they segregate men and women and urge unveiled women to veil out of ‘solidarity’ and ‘respect’.
This type of politics denies universalism, sees rights as ‘western,’ justifies the suppression of rights, freedoms and equality under the guise of respect for other ‘cultures’ implying that people want to live the way they are forced to and imputing on innumerable people the most reactionary elements of culture and religion, which is that of the ruling class.
In this type of politics, the oppressor is victim and any criticism racist…
I suppose the whole point of the One Law for All Campaign is to create an alternative space for decent people to resist in a way that does not inadvertently bed them with the fascists or the Islamists and their apologists.
In all of this Diane, you need to choose where you will stand in the battle that lies ahead.
I hope you will choose to be out and about on November 21.
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To read more of my criticism of cultural relativism, click here.
To read more of my criticism of the far-Right and European Left, see my open letter to anyone who will listen
Maryam Namazie
James writes: ‘Just signed the petition, very much support it but there is a problem which is that the Jewish community already have the same idea [Jewish Beth Din] and it’s in place and [I understand] legally recognised … if they have it then the argument against Sharia is weakened, the battle needs to widen and include the Jewish law courts and get those stopped.’
Maryam Namazie responds: The One Law for All Campaign is opposed to all religious councils and tribunals including the Beth Din. If you look at our petition it calls for an end to all of them. But we’re focusing on Sharia because it is something close to our hearts and experience (at least for those of us who started the campaign), because Sharia courts are a tool of the political Islamic movement and also because Sharia courts are more prevalent.
The International Campaign against Sharia Courts in Canada did that too (http://www.nosharia.com/). They focused on Sharia though they were opposed to all types of tribunals and they succeeded in getting rid of them all. That is exactly what we aim to do here.
I was actually a speaker at the first public meeting against Sharia law in Canada. To see my speech there, click here.
Hope this clarifies our position.
kope
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Persecuted
I would be there if I was able to and hadn’t been injured by sharia type law and brutal men AND women of the UK communists in power now – please get them out for the sake of so many children,and injured women- get them out I beg you
nadim
Persecuted: “uk communists in power”? you must be insane! or you know nothing about nature of regimes and systems.
Antony
Another event readers may be interested in attending is held on Dec 10 at Conway Hall by a new islamist group called the Muslim Debate Initiative ( http://thedebateinitiative.com ) .
Given that one of the invited speakers is from the Christian People’s Alliance, I suspect they may be trying to portray all those involved in anti islamisation struggles as christian fundamentalists in order to put off the public at large. Similarly, another speaker is Stephen Gash of the Stop Islamisation Of Europe group ( http://sioe.wordpress.com ), the MDI advert already falsely labels him as “far right”, even though this group actively condemn racism & fascism, again, this sounds like an attempt to portray anti islamists as fascists.
I think it would be a good idea if secularists & atheists etc attended so as to speak from the floor and give the islamists a harder time debating than they would have expected.
See you all on the 21 Nov !
kc
its about time all muslims were kicked qut of England, and all the mosks are destroyed. they have no respect for use or our country. We need to fight back ,and if the law wont do it then to arms it must be.
kc
why because its truth
sam haqq
The Shariah law is the only perfect law humanity has; it is not subject to constant change through the desires of men nor driven by greed rather under the clear orders of infinite wisdom from our Lord. We would certainly be in a more peaceful and efficient society if Shariah was practised by all. The misconceptions of it being unjust to women and laughfully children are fabricated and only the gay(retarded) efforts of an ignornent few! Compare Saudiarabia to here, they barely here of thieves forget rape and murder; marriages rarely end in divorce and suicides only occur to rid jews (matyrdrom and because of depression) 🙂
E. Barrrett "Emmeline"
Sam Haqq
You say that sharia law is not driven by desires of men. Why then do its supporters need to marry 9yr old girls and have 4 wives? That seems a desire too far to me.
You state that gays are retarded. There are none more retarded than Muslim fathers who thrust their daughters into marriages where they might be obliged to give birth on a dirt floor with no medical help. Gays are not overpopulating this planet and have always uplifted people’s spirits with art, music, comedy etc.. They, without whining, pay considerable sums for your many children, their medical care, education, housing and partial help towards the building of mosques. In return they are promised the worst tortures and deaths for minding their own business in their own bedrooms. As for your attack on Jews, well I don’t know all Jews, do you?
Sharia shrouds little girls in heatwaves and prevents them joining in playground games. Girls need sunlight for strong bones. The boys wear tee shirts and shorts.
And why should an honest, highly intelligent woman like me be controlled by someone like you who is economical with the truth and allows others to dictate even about his facial hair!! Grow up! Get
a life and either enjoy Western life or go and live in a country where you can live under sharia law. Personally I’m sick of whiners like you.
Emmeline.
LYNN M
WELL SAID. I COULD NOT HSVE PUT IT BETTER MYSELF
LYNN
Suraj
E Barrett
Your comments show your height of ignorance and bigotry against islam.
Coming to your points- Shariah Law Allows four wifes to protect the rights of women, so that each one gets an equal status of wife and not like in the west where only one women is the wife and all other women with whom a man has affairs are thrown away like used tissue papers.
Secondly regarding your comment about getting married to a 9 year old..Shariah recognises that every woman is different, some might have the physical and mental ability of a twenty year old at the age of 10 or less while others may be 25 and still have the maturity of a 10 year old. Western law just looks at age, while shariah law gives importance to physical and mental maturity with regards to marriage, which is much more logical, rather than having a blanket age of 18 years for marriage.
Regarding covering women with proper clothes in Shariah is again protecting their rights and respecting them. Women go out semi naked in the west just as an object of pleasure for men, which is the worst form of degradation of women.
So anyone with reason and logic can see how much respect and protection Shariah Law gives to Women. Practical example is the number of rape cases in the west versus the number of rape cases in Saudi Arabia. Difference is clear!
Dutchie
Sharia law is barbaric, medieval, and perpetuated by inadequate men who seek only to control and exploit women.
Kevin T
Off you go then. There are plenty of flights to Riyadh.
Nick
sam haqq if you want to live under shariah law the pi*s off back to the islamic sh*thole you came from, you muslims only come to the UK for free hand outs that this labour government gives you. If it was not for Free Housing, Free Health Care and Welfare you scum would not be in the UK!
Nick
What are you talking about?
Have you not seen the films of muslims hanging, stoning, beheading and otherwise abusing other muslims in the sharia-dominated countries?
You muslims that claim it is a religion of peace are so much in denial, it’s unbelievable!
It’s islam that is corrupt, murderous,and immoral!
Antony
How about getting the excellent atheist comedian Pat Condell (http://www.patcondell.net ) to do a stint on the 21st ?
Much more entertaining than the Guardianistas !
Erbus
So you wish to stop Sharia law, but does this mean that you will then extend your campaign against the Jewish Community who have already established their courts in this country? Israel has already carried out ethnic cleansing in Settlements? Or are you just going to ignore this? So will you do this even though Israel has committed war-crimes, ethnic cleansing, internment, torture and has nuclear weapons, ready to use them against any Arab Country?
LYNN M
Erbus,
What a load of rubbish you write. Hamas has done more ethnic cleansing than Israel, and what has Israel got to do with Sharia law.
It is about time you got your campaign against the right people. Thank goodness Israel has a nuclear deterent. It would be very unfortunate if Iran was able to have a nuclear deterent, there would probably be world war three.
Lynn
Leo
I wish you every success in this rally and campaign to liberate the world from the bondage of islamic extremism, of which sharia is its major weapon.
In Africa, millions of people are forced to live under sharia law. Millions of women and children are suffering and dying as a result of islamic extremism and sharia-based tyrannies in Somalia, Egypt, Sudan, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya, Mauritania, Senegal, Gambia, Niger, Nigeria etc
May your campaign bring hope and light to these countries and to the world at large.
Janet
Best of luck. I’ll be there if possible, along with other left-wingers and feminists who haven’t forgotten what we’ve been fighting for all our lives.
If any British left-winger or liberal can explain why they support one of the most misogynist and reactionary ideologies to spread in Europe during our lifetime, I would be interested to know.
Alan_d
It’s a shame some people are mistaking this for a racist or anti-Islamic organisation. We are not. We oppose religious courts because they are discriminatory and ghetto-ise entire communities of vulnerable people who don’t know their rights. Our sole aim is to uphold human rights.
If you’re looking for an anti-Muslim movement, look elsewhere. I won’t be providing you with any addresses.
paul
well janet a left winger who does not support islam, thats a turn up!
Janet
Paul, the principles of islamism and of the European left are so totally opposite to each other that I have no idea how anyone can believe in both without their head exploding!
Of course I’ve been called ‘racist’, by people who refuse to debate any further when I point out that islamism is a political ideology, not a race. If the opposition were racist, the hindu and sikh religions would be equally unpopular here.
There are plenty of so-called lefties who don’t so much support socialism as hate the British state. I’d call them anarchists myself, but that would just start another argument!
Roger
“It’s a shame some people are mistaking this for a racist or anti-Islamic organisation”
Not really. The English Defence League also oppose sharia law in the uk yet Maryam Namazie describes them as a “racist organisation”. So why is this group any different? Because the leader is not white!? What nonsense
Maryam Namazie
Hi all, I have been responding to various comments on the FAQ page of our site so please do look for any responses here: https://onelawforall.org.uk/about/faq/. Hope to see as many of you as possible on November 21. Maryam
Suraj
Maryam a few questions, could you answer please.
1. Why are there so many Rape Cases in the West against Women while extremely rare rape cases in Saudi Arabia?
2. Look at the percentage of Nude Female Models to Nude male models in the western advertisements. Why are women mostly shown nude rather than men in the west. Is this not extremely degrading and disrespectful to women and shows a society that provides pleasure for men and is controlled by them?
3. why is the divorce rate multiple times higher in the West as compared to Islamic countries?
4. Why are extramarial affairs in which the ‘other woman’ is the main loser very rampant in the west and not in Islamic Countries like Saudi Arabia?
5. Why are women used as a sex symbol and valued by their bust size in the West while none of this happens in the islamic countries?
6. Why is it that women have great respect as mothers, sisters and daughters in Islamic societies but in the western society these concepts are fading away?
Nick
Suraj
Why are there so many Rape Cases in the West against Women while extremely rare rape cases in Saudi Arabia?
Because in Saudi Arabia you STONE the females to death for being RAPED so they are too afraid to go to he police.
Like I said you want too live under islamic law then piss off back to the islamic country you came from, you are not wanted and will not be missed in the UK!
Call to Arms Civil War needs to happen to drive these scum from our shores, the Labour government are Traitors!
Roy McC
Suraj
You nned to think more for yourself. You know the answer. Women in the west are encouraged to report rape.
Opressed women do not complain.
The BBC reported, Amnesty International’s report of the stoning of a 13-year-old girl in southern Somalia. The teenager was stoned to death after her father informed the authorities that she had been gang-raped. She was reportedly accused of adultery and the stoning, in front of a crowd of around 1,000, was her punishment.
Hasnat
Well, I think that Sharia Law is good set of rules But in in one’s own and personal life. Countries should not use it as a Law System. For example, they should set a min. marriage age for males and females: 18. It’s as simple as that. Sharia Law also says about one’s personal life. The State has not right to be involved in this.
Basically, if a country wishes to use Sharia Law, then it must firstly read it and see what is obligatory. Afterwards, they must follow the Western ways on whatever is not neccessary. (Such as, it does not, as far as I am aware, state a specific marriage age. It talks about arranged and forced marriages but becuase it does not give an age limit, the state could then say “18” without going against the Sharia Law, I think)
A final point;
The Peoples of this world must learn to live in peace and not try and enforce their beliefs upon one another! This applies to every human being, not just those narrow minded terrorists, that kill innocent people, claiming to be on a Jihad, when the rules of war in Islam say that nothing other than enemy soldiers must be harmed. A enemy who has given themselves up must not be killed, POWs must be treated humanely and there is never a need to inflict pointless harm using weps. like Nukes.
That is all I have to say.
Jeffrey
Question to Maryam Namazie, who is with the Communist Party of Iran, could you please clarify your position on the human rights of women oppressed by Communist nations today? As testified a week ago in Washington DC, Communist China continues its practices of forced abortion and denial of women’s human rights throughout Communist China. As you are a public support of Communism and a promoter of Communism in Iran, will your human rights support for women’s rights also challenge Communist nations that are oppressing women – perhaps the largest violator of women’s human rights in the world?
Janet
Jeffrey, please don’t let your dislike of Communism lead you into making silly sniping comments which, if you stop and think for a moment, make you sound foolish. Women face discrimination in any developing country – it’s certainly not unknown in the West either! Women actually have more rights in China than in most developing countries and many rich ones, but that’s not the point here.
You simply cannot compare sharia law to any other legal system in the world. Women and children being stoned to death for having dared to report a rape? That’s just the worst of a horrific litany of abuses being routinely carried out in islamist countries, not as crimes but as legal punishments under sharia law.
Or rather, you can compare sharia with communism if you like. But it makes you look very silly.
stuart
I cant be at hyde park. Wish you all the best and hope it goes smoothly, I totally agree with you and support you in this fight againt Sharia law, Peace to you and success, cheers.
Adnan Asghar
I think these are extremist chrisitian, that are a threat for humanity.
Roman Bosski
Suraj.
WHAT A F**K? What are you talking about? This is not your buisness how is in West. The thing is – all of you came on our lands and fucked all up. Europe is not similar to Europe from the past. Tell me why? Because we’ve got different law towards womens? NO!! Becouse you trying to change our world include everything!! If somebody coming into my house I show my hospitality BUT that person should to keep the respect to me (to my religion – my law – MY LIFE) and remember that is only the guest here. You came to us (by the way – why dont you stay in your country, huh?) and made here a mess. I HAVE RIGHTS TO FIGHT FOR MY HOME, FOR MY IDENTITY.
To all Europeans (non-Muslims of course) – Why you still talking about this everything? All is clear – we know whats happend in West Europe, we are not happy with this so we have to stop talking and take the plunge. Get your ass on the street, dont be scared of the Muslims. We are in our home, we are not a slaves.
THE ISLAM IS DECEIT. They trying to cheat us by talking rubbish and showing fake stories. OPEN YOUR EYES.
TIME TO WAKE UP EUROPE!!
ruth
both sharia and islam should be banned not just from UK but from the world.
this evil religion advocates animal cruelty and child abuse.
they believe dogs are evil and should be killed and never kept as pets.
if you love animals you should hate islam..because it believes that animals and the beloved mother Earth are here only for humans to abuse.that is why they have so many kids..they dont care for this planet at all.or all of the beautiful animals on it.
they also slit animals throats to kill it for food. in fact.. they glorify the murder of animals for food as their false god says its ok.
they believe man can have anal sex with a child as long as virginity intact,.mohamed curses be upon him married a little girl aged 6.
foul and vile cult of sickos
go to hell
tracie
good luck on saturday i wish i could be there. men of all religions need to take responsibility for the sexual depravities of all men. Men are not trafficked for sex, men are not made into prostitutes, women are not selling men to other women. All religions need to end the domination of women. islam being just one of them.
Suraj love, one day you will see the light and it aint in islam.
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Like I said you want too live under islamic law then piss off back to the islamic country you came from, you are not wanted and will not be missed in the UK!
Solomon Niemants
Thanks! This makes things clearer! I will most likey check this whole blog out again, thanks again, OP!